PersonalJesus348 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I think anyone who says is "atheist", and note I do it in quotes since it should be confused as organized for it is not, is admittance that we don't know and what has been said before is very unlikely happens or can happen. Referring to religious stories that seem no more than noble tall tales. Part of me thinks just get buried six feet under, everyone cries. I just go into the oblivion. Another part tells me that can't be true but that could be the monkey part of the brain.

jacnova (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If you are an Atheist then what do you think is going to happen after death? In general...

tahoeclimber (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Are the "choices" you make only an inevitable outcome? Are we deluded in thinking we really have a choice? There's no way of knowing. Does water have a choice of which way it will flow? It's direction is dictated by gravity and the volume it occupies just like the decisions we make are dictated by previous experience and our situation.

Xenophanes21 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

There is no such thing as the collective subconscious.... Its called the collective unconscious... and that doesn't exist either...

PersonalJesus348 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I loved the freedom when I freed myself and became "atheist". Everything had meaning again. Its evolutionary beauty. Now that freedom has gone. I know too well know how powerful the collective subconscious is.

xxstarchildxx (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

yeah "l'etranger" by albert camus is translated as either "the outsider" or "the stranger" in english, it can mean either

xxstarchildxx (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Existentialism: a very short introduction- thomas r. flynn (it's actually not that short a book, it talks about it in detail)

whatatidymess (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

not all choices are made freely, children do not have any say in the way thay are brout up, so theres no free choice there, someboby else made a choice for you. true freedom only comes when you are fully aware of whats going on arount you

Phaedo7 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I would tell you that religion is the product of existential angst. That there is something about the human condition that makes us all suffer something, need something. As we are all human we have many commonalities and we exspress it similarly. Look at the religions we have, their commonalities not coincidence. Not evidence of something divine. Just an expression of something very human

brokennarcissist (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I didn't miss the point, I have an honors degree in philosophy, so I think I have pretty decent grasp of the basic tenants of existentialism. It is not a matter of 'they', its a matter of norms. The social norms within a liberal framework (where freedom of the individual is the organizing principle) are alienating and leave one trapped within his own experience. There is no such thing as a non social individual. Freedom is a collective effort, is an achievement of community, not individual.