cydonius99 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

What socialist country did you live in, if I may ask?

FightForChangeNow (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Go back and study history with an open mind I didn't feel like sounding arrogant and telling you I majored in it but since you are immature and rude you can suck my fat beef stick.

TNT93535 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Wrong on both counts bitch. No one was forced south after the US bought the southwest from mexico. Those who were living in the north stayed and became US citizens, those who weren't stayed in the south and have no claim to this land. Arabs are native to the Arabian peninsula. Anywhere else they're at is due to invasion over the past 1000 years. For you to claim they've always been in Israel is the height of ignorance!

FightForChangeNow (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Absolutly not true! the mexicans lived in the southern U.S. well before us europeans arrived and forced them south and the palestinians, arabs, brown people, whatever you may call them allways inhabited israel.

TNT93535 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Except no one forced the paleosimians out of anywhere. They left willingly because they didn't want to be in the way when their buddies from Syria and Egypt came in and slaughtered the jews. Oddly, without meaning to, you made a decent comparison. The arabs are not native to Israel, they took it voa warfare a few centuries ago. mexicans aren't native to the area that is now the US either, they currently occupy the land they're native to.

FightForChangeNow (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's funny that people cant understand and complain about why there are so many so called "illegals". It is because when people live somewhere for a long long time and you force them out with armed conflict they will be on you like a fly on shit, they will never go anywhere no matter what you do just like the palestinians in Israel.

TNT93535 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Thanks for proving you're clinically brain damaged. There was no nation here for the US to have violated. Same with Israel.palestine has never been a nation, pick up a history book and you'll see. In fact, there was never a people referred to as palestinian until 1965 when yassir arafat made it up and created the PLO to justify murdering jews.

StrawB2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'm an Immigrant I lived in a socialist country, I came to this county in 1969 at an age of 19, I have lived and first hand experience socialism, that is exactly what Obama is selling to the American public right now. Obama reminds me of Adolf Hitler in his speech in Berlin, he too drew large crowds same as Obama, look what it brought Germany. Word Up America the change he promises you is socialism.

trenchnurse (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes, and therein lies the fault in their logic. It has to be "consensual from both parties". The presence of the illegal immigrant is NOT CONSENSUAL with my nation. Simply calling them an "undocumented worker" doesnt change the crime; it only renames it. Thats the point Im making. It has nothing to do with marriage. Since when is treatment from any government official supposed to be "encouraging"? A bank teller might be rude to me, it doesnt give me the excuse to rob the bank!

Manceinion (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Marriage is not, despite some religious beliefs, a certificate of the right to violate said spouse against her will. A marital union between man and woman has to be consensual from both parties which is why I call your analogy redundant. As for feeling that illegal immigration is 'tasteless', I used to agree to some extent. That is before one of my own tried to enter the United States legally. The treatment they were given was certainly tasteless and hardly encouraging.